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over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over the 800 billion in new tax revenue. this was part of john boehner and plan. those tea party-backed co
the fiscal cliff and make sure that american families aren't faced with possible larger tax bills come january. >> wouldn't it just make you feel better if you didn't feel the real reason we'll get a fiscal cliff resolution, whether it's a little tinkering or something bigger, wasn't because they actually wanted to be home on christmas? >> i think that they absolutely should try to get this done. i certainly don't think they should go home before the situation is resolved. but i also think that when you are looking at what kind of congress we want, we want a responsive congress. we want a congress rooted in american communities, not inside the beltway. >> look, you just want mondays and fridays off, too, and your trying to make the argument to the national review as to why that is better. >> americans want their leaders to work, period. >> thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. of course, we want all your feedback. >>> next, the billionaire software tycoon john mcafee is wanted in the questioning of the death of his neighbor. martin savidge just literally caught him. he was running,
would be so irresponsible as to threat on take the american people off this fiscal cliff. plunge us back into recession and put a lot of people out of work. so this is very disappointing. and i wish we weren't where we are, but it takes two parties to negotiate in good faith and frankly the president has been awol. megyn: do you believe the president want to go off the fiscal cliff? >> by judging from his behavior, i'm beginning to believe he does. and that i think would be a profoundy irresponsible act. economists of all stripes have told us we'll be plunged into a recession. we don't know in light of this fragile economy whether it would be a small dip or whether it would spiral out of control. so it's just something we should not be toying with. that's why it's so discouraging to see the president and secretary geithner increase their demand and not come closer together given the fact our side has put revenue on the table, something we don't want to do. we know we don't have just a taxing problem, we have a spending problem and we see no commensurate action from the president or his p
cliff? melissa: surprisingly the american people are not so sure on this one. we'll get lou dobbs's take. >> i'm adam shapiro with your fox business brief. stocks are trading higher in afternoon trading pushing blue-chips into triple-digit gains. right now the dow is up 113 points. >>> workers at the ports of los angeles and long beach are back at work today of an eight-day strike crippled one of the nation's busiest ports. the announcement came from the mayor of los angeles who joined federal negotiators to negotiate a deal between the employees and portfolio managerment. mayor villaraigosa will be a guest on fox business. >>> elizabeth murdoch died, mother of rupert murdoch. she was considered one of australia's most generous philanthropists donating money to more than 100 charities. dame elizabeth murdoch was 100 years old. that is the latest from the fox business network, giving you the power to prosper. lori: as republicans and democrats continue the back and forth over the fiscal cliff one thing they're already losing is the confidence the american people. look at this. just four i
, probably not that many. let that pass. that addresses the fiscal cliff and says to the american people we can take action on things we agree on. it's good for everybody, the economy, fiscal cliff and it would set a tone here in washington that we can get something done when we work together cooperatively. so we've been explicit, specific. we look forward to specificity from republicans. >> there are now countdown clocks -- [inaudible] those of us who have been lucky enough to study the legislative body we have an idea of how things go. there's more and more lawmakers who look at it and say it's december 15th. if you have an agreement and have the time necessary for it to be read, digest it, debated before christmas. the president shares that timeline. it's not december 1st. it's something of a practical matter much earlier than that. is that is that in any way create a sense of urgency? >> the sooner the better that we receive specificity from republicans about what it is they would do on revenues, for example, what it is they want on spending cuts, for example. we will be able to move fo
've been talking a lot this morning about the fiscal cliff the impact on middle american families particularly. but there are a lot of people who are saying today well, let's teach the republicans a lesson. let's let them go over the cliff. why not. and then see what happens. does it make any sense to you? >> look. you know, i'm into actually solving things. not retribution. i'm a teacher. and what you do is you try to -- you try to educate people. you know. if you have to protest. if you have to activate. you do those things. but at the end of the day the american people actually said really clearly in the election by the polling data about congress and you see what they said -- what was litigated during the election. and what they said during the election. every single day. barack obama, joe biden the people running for senate said we have to have a balanced approach which means more revenues. they said that. it was pretty clear. and the american people voted for the president and the biggest popular vot
to peeking over that fiscal cliff and two very lucky americans. they got a whole lot richer. a look back now at the week that was. >> the fiscal cliff, now just 34 days away. >> we only have a couple weeks to get something done. >> listen, this is not a game. >> you'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. >> susan rice faces more backlash. >> i still have many questions that remain unanswered. >> there are no unanswered questions. >> somebody somewhere is waking up filthy stinking rich. >> lottery mascot doing "gangnam style" for us this morning. >> money, politics and the mix dominated this week that was. the week center on a big worry. >> this fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> we could actually go off the fiscal cliff. >> we're facing a fiscal grand canyon. >> okay. so it's a big deal. question is can these guys strike a deal? >> i've got to repeat. i've got a pen. >> meantime, damage control for u.n. ambassador susan rice out to smooth things over with this week with republicans after those benghazi talking point. >> exextremist elements came to the consula
are wasting precious time here to avert the fiscal cliff. was this the intended effect of the president's first offer? >> what we're trying to do is to make it more likely. we come together on a good agreement for the american people that extends tax cuts to the american people. brings our long-term deficits down. tough spending savings is part of that, and invest in things that matter to the american economy, like infrastructure, and getting americans back to work. we think we can do that. we have a good chance, and it's very important. and i think we'll get there, david. >> do you think we'll get a deal by the end of the year? >> i do. because the only thing standing in the way of that is a refusal by republicans to accept that rates have to go up on the wealthiest americans. and i don't really see them doing that. >> the idea that they have signalled something significant for them, which is -- >> what is that? >> putting revenue on the table. >> it's welcome that they are recognizing that revenues are going to have to go up. but they haven't told us anything about how far rates shoul
cliff if republicans don't agree to tax hikes on the richest americans. and so we welcome peter alexander, at the ranks of the white house correspondents, with a look at all of it. >> reporter: brian, good evening, on the north lawn, the phone call marks the first time speaker john boehner and the president spoke in a week, that is hardly something to celebrate, but they wouldn't characterize what they discussed in the phone call as the country barrels towards the fiscal cliff. with no talks and no progress to avert the looming fiscal cliff, you could say the house has left the building, streaming out of the capitol. tomorrow's session cancelled. with only three work days left this year, they are often criticized. just 16 votes. across the country, rising frustration, americans asking why the holdup. and what will their taxes look like in 2013. >> maybe instead of getting my sister two things, you give one thing, you have to give pause on what could happen next year. >> reporter: today, president obama and house republicans are locked in a political stare down. with neither side
of it is also a game of chicken where they both swerve off the road and we do go over the fiscal cliff. there is a big penalty to be paid for it. i think the american people were hoping that both sides would be able to come together. hopefully they will. it's hard to say whether behind the scenes things are better than we think or 0 whether this rile is a titanic battle that is going to be fought out and we're going to go over the cliff. no one knows that for sure yet. jenna: that is the truth. how do you think this sets us up for the year ahead. we have some really big challenges that our don't tree facescountry faces. your thoughts and how big of a role party is in this problem, and in not being able to really get any resolutions, and kick the can down the road. is the party the problem or is it something else? >> i think a lot of it is both parties and problems within both parties. i think a lot of the players that are sitting here already today making these decisions are looking at the 2014 re-election bid, and they are not worried about the other party. their seats are safe for th
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story -- now our fourth story "outfront." the fiscal cliff. dissension within the ranks. it seems not all republican lawmakers and conservative groups are in lockstep with john boehner. earlier i spoke with one gop house member who hasn't been on the same wave length as the speaker recently. he's in senior leadership. here's what deputy whip congressman tom cole told me about those who in the party say taxes shouldn't be on the table. >> for those who say we're putting revenue on the table, the american people did that when they elected, you know, the president and a democratic senate again. again, they have to agree to a deal or tax rates on everybody go up. i think we shouldn't -- we should do everything we can to avoid that for as many people as we possibly can. >> "outfront" tonight, grover norquist, whose anti tax pledge signed by most sitting republican lawmakers on capitol hill has been a major point of contention in this debate. grover, let me start by asking you something congressman tom cole said. he said it's the american people who spoke. this was central to the presid
the fiscal cliff is. move a lot of the damage to the economy on january 1. let's go ahead and pass that. we can debate the upper income taxes and the spending later. it's not implausible, you can make a sophisticated argument why it's a mistake but as a first blush argument the president has the advantage. >> bret: juan? >> i think that you are starting to see much of the posturing and the poxing and the -- positioning and the democrats and president have advantage and trying to take advantage of it. you see it from the polls that come out and most people blame republicans if there is to deal. right now just what you saw from speaker boehner. speaker boehner says the president is asking for $1.6 trillion in terms of added revenue. boehner has come out and said he will do a deal with $800 billion, which is what the president was asking for before. what you have is the outline now, the early outlines of some in between spot where they could in fact find middle ground. then you have the democrats trying to put pressure on the republicans to name their own cuts. where would you cut in addition
-called fiscal cliff. >> this weekend on c-span3's "american history tv," follow harry truman's eldest son, as they prepared to mark the dropping of the atomic bomb on 1945. >> i know everyone has their own view. i don't want to argue survival. i think we're past that. i want to do what i can to see that this doesn't happen again. >> clifton truman daniel will join us to discuss the inspiration for his trip sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span3. >> a report by the group securing america's future energy says the greatest threat to national and economic security is dependence on foreign oil. members of the group, business political and retired military leaders are suggesting a plan of maximizing oil and gas production, reducing consumption, and improving conservation as a way to boost revenue and reduce our debt. this is a little less than an hour and a half. >> good morning, everyone. thank you all for coming. i especially want to thank the members of the leadership council that could be with us here today. they've been a distinguished group of people working on this issue since 2006. we'r
be to resolve the fiscal cliff position, and then see the american economy, you know, what a fantastic natural advantage is in this huge game change you've got in energy policy to see that economy really take its proper place again. and if that happens, i think that will also, by the way, have an impact on say the eurozone, which is still very, very fragile. >> all the ifs in there. you have written an article, a special to cnn called be bold to escape the economic crisis. that's the headline there. what is the lesson? i mean i think often the big superpowers don't necessarily look to africa, for example, for good lessons on how to strategize. many of those countries, those emerging economies are doing, are growing, at a rate faster than the united states, and favser than many others. >> yes, they're moving ahead very fast as economies. but i think for us efficiently, if you take europe they've got to take some really big decisions now, and as it were, sort out the short-term issues to do with the single currency crisis, and then make the long-term reforms that we're all going to have to make.
significant, the biggest stumbling block on the road to the fiscal cliff, that difference between tax rates for the wealthiest americans. and what house democrats announced they're going to try to do is an end run around the house gop to try to file a petition in order to try to push a vote on the house floor to just raise taxes -- excuse me, to just extend the bush-era tax rates for middle class americans. but to do that, as you know, they need 218 votes and there's still a very sizable republican majority in the house. it will be difficult for democrats to do that. >> absolutely. and that proposal to take away what has been historically a congressional prerogative was a little bit surprising even to people who have been reading about this stuff for years. is it true though, dana, as it has been in past years that both sides at least have to show their bases that they're fighting the good fight and that's part of what's going on here? >> reporter: absolutely. there's no question about it. what i mention in the piece really is a real phenomenon here when it comes to the feeling among congre
. >>> the standoff over the fiscal cliff is putting jobs here in california and alison burns has more on this. >> reporter: and secretary panetta has warned the fiscal cliff would hurt our national defense. he's expected to hold a news conference any minute now. he's getting the order from the white house to brace for massive budget cut us. now, the automatic spending cuts that would kick in if congress does not reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff would force the pentagon to slice about 10% of the budget. the defense industry projects one in five defense contracts in california would be lost. the aerospace industry is projecting that 135,000 department jobs would be cut along with 90,000 jobs for a total of about 225,000 jobs lost in california over the next few years. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:16. well, today will mark the 9 oth annual lighting of the national christmas tree. president obama and his family, they will flip a switch lighting that tree this evening. neil patrick harris, remember doogie howser? he will be hosting the event. james taylor and the fray will be amo
surprise you with this, i don't agree by going over the fiscal cliff, but i do agree that the smart move for the americans to make they don't have leverage on the taxes. the payroll tax cut about to expire and it did expire, republicans tucked their tails, reversed themselves under pressure. president obama won the issue. how can republicans oppose cutting taxes for 98% of the american people? that's what this is going to come down to if it goes beyond january 1st. and i think republicans are going to cave again if that happens. so the smart move is take taxes off the table. and then the only thing left is what will the president do on spending and entitlements. don't forget, wolf and paul, none of this tax talk has any impact on the sequester. unless they cut spending, we are still facing massive cuts to the pentagon, doctors and hospitals. taxes are a separate debate. solve it, settle it and then we can focus on spending before december 31st. >> hold your fire, paul. we're going to continue this conversation. we have more to talk about. should president obama back off plans to nominate
to do their part to continue campaign. calling on all americans to raise awareness about the fiscal cliff, to get in touch with their congressmen to tweet my2k. here he was doing this in small businessville, pennsylvania just yesterday. >> it's not acceptable to me. i don't think it is acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. that doesn't make sense. >> in addition to rounding up the voters, he deployed tim geithner to the hill. he just know that leader pelosi is letting house democrats know they better not pull a fredo during negotiations. the president's offer was this. $1.6 trillion in tax increases, a hefty $50 billion in mortgage relief, infrastructure investments. extension of unemployment insurance and a deferral of cuts to medication payments to physicians. oh, yeah, no more debt ceiling fights. he is going to take that one off of congress' plate all together. there is a claim of about $400 billion in entitlement savings. they carry no guarantee and
, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. the republican plan to solve the fiscal cliff is the same one america rejected on november 6th. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> flabbergasted. i said he can't be serious. >> john boehner finally puts a plan on the table. >>> and breaking news the middle class gets the shaft. richard wolffe and molly ball on the republican political theater and the white house response. >>> bob costas issues a common sense plea for gun control in the wake of the kansas city chief murder suicide story. and the right wing just explodes. >> bob costas based on the standards of our society today deserves to be fired for these remarks. bill roden and dan gross respond. >>> corporate profits break records again in the third quarter. we'll tell you what it means for workers. >>> just when you thought it was too early for a horse race -- >> we haven't heard the last of hillary clinton. >> -- i'll ask michael if this was the first campaign video for decision 2016. >> good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. john boehner is hanging on to thei
with the fiscal cliff. but it has everything to do with obamacare. >> now, it is true that a lot of those taxes did take place after the election. that's something we pointed out and is a fair point. but let me just ask you about the compromise we have to go to. because like i said, again, to get this done, taxes are -- i mean, they're going to go up on somebody. i just believe that this is what is going to happen. i think tom cole thinks it's going to happen. i think tom coburn thinks it's going to happen. i wanted to play a bite from him and get your reaction. here he is. >> sure. >> i'm okay to compromise even on some of my issues, if, in fact, we'll solve the problem. but what we have is a game being played for political -- for the extreme right wing and the extreme left win rather than coming together and leading and solving the problem. >> so grover norquist. if you had to accept the tax rates would go up, all right, just they're going to go up and they're going to go up on somebody. what would you really want in return? not revenue-neutral. real tax increases. what do you want in return?
. >> host: what are the obstacle of the fiscal cliff? >> guest: it's an optimist in the christmas season. we got right to the last minute before what could've been a government shutdown in april of 2011. because the last minute on the fiscal cliff. i don't think it's a good way to do business. >> host: if we were to go over, what happens? >> guest: well, you know, probably congress would be back in session pretty quickly and hopefully we would do something like i'm talking about right now. that's what we should do it early. and continue to negotiate. it's not just a question of dollars and cents. effort some people say let the race club in republicans get some data call that a tax cut. people lose faith in the institution and the political leadership. trust is a very funny commodity. you have it until you don't. when you lose the trust of the american people it's not like you get back to doing the right thing the next day. we should convince the country and the markets that can make smart decisions and to compromise and again this would be a step in the right direction of showing we can work
to those american citizens, though, that say, listen, over the fiscal cliff, i'm afraid of that, i don't even want to entertain the possibilities of what that would look like. >> i think when it comes to issues such as the extension of unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, freidman would have argued that it's the better course to cut spending in those areas now rather than defer indefinitely on making real spending cuts. the current agreement was hammered out in august of 2011. what typically happens is that spending cuts are promised in the future, but they never materialize, the taxes are raised anyway. that is exactly what would happen under this circumstance, taxes would be raised, spending cuts would be promised in the future but when that deadline is reached we won't make the spending cuts. so at this point in time what is really being talked about is strictly a tax increase and freidman would have opposed that. jenna: i don't need to tell you that, there's certainly been critics of milton freidman out there. if you take the criticism together this is what they say. t
to see this country go off the fiscal cliff. there's obviously too much at stake not only politically but for the lives and welfare of americans. i think that's foremost in their mind, even given all the politics. so thelma and louise, whatever conspiracy theories we see right now, they might be justified because we're at a standoff at least publicly right now as we head into december, alex. >> mike viqueira at the white house, thanks for that. >>> joining me for more front page politics, perry bacon junior and political contributor for the "washington post." perry, the president's plan is pretty ambitious. what is the strategy here? >> the strategy is to move this debate to the left. i mean, a lot of times you saw in these first four years obama would kind of start in the center on a plan and then the republicans could move to the right a little bit. in this plan, obama knows republicans don't support stimulus money. they don't support $1.6 trillion in taxes. he's saying i won the election. we're going to start with a plan pretty far to the left and move slightly from there. he's pla
of this republican majority is to solve the fiscal cliff once and for all and put us on a path to grow the economy. >> we are 34 days away from what would be the largest tax increase in american history, and the speaker boehner and the republicans have put forward a balanced plan that would prevent that from happening and not devastate our economy at a time when our economy continues to struggle and people are having a tough time finding work. we need to take action that will insure that small-business owners all across this country continue to be able to survive. many have said that the president's approach in raising taxes would act to devastate the economy. ernst and young estimated jobs lost -- a plan that would cut nearly 1 million jobs is a nonstarter. we are working to find a better way. a common-sense way. we can raise tax revenue by simplifying the tax code, not increasing tax rates. we can address wasteful government spending that jeopardize an hour commitments in the national defense and protecting our most honorable. we can jump-start our economy by assuring americans that congress and
off the fiscal cliff and the congress is blaming for inaction. >> it's unacceptable to hold the middle tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let the tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> the republicans call this a bait and switch. >> alisyn: we'll debate. >> dave: one massachusetts town rolling out the welcome mat to long islanders for christmas tree lighting after the they refused to budge on the holiday event. the p.c. please. >> should you tip your garbage collector or how about your child's teacher? we have tips for tipping or the barista at starbucks. >> dave: no! sorry, ladies and gentlemen. >> "fox & friends" begins right now. ♪ >> are you supposed to tip the teacher. >> dave: some are, some are not. >> you want to err on the side of tipping and is it too much. do you tip the garbage man or the postal employee. you leave a bunt cake outside. >> alisyn: yes, money. they want money. >> dave: we'll get into it later, but it's tough because it used to be you tip someone for extraordinary service. >> alisyn: right. >> dave: now you just tip someone please. >> a
lawmakers don't get it together soon. president obama saying now a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff could be about a week away. there is just one catch. he says republicans have to accept the, quote: reality as he puts it that tax rates are going up for the richest americans. something g.o.p. leaders are calling a deal breaker. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan bickering. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. we can probably solve this. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual break through that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts reforms and it included additional revenue. and frankly, it was a balanced approach mr. president has been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. >> they have 27 days to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts from kicking in on new year's day. ed henry live at the white house for us. ed, we are hearing the president and house speaker john boehne
blamed no matter what they do. that's political environment. they might as well embrace the fiscal cliff. >> you heard peter difazio saying earlier in the program, democrat, go off the cliff, there is no cliff. no problem. >> folks on both sides. look, there's not a clip there and they're going to play chicken and go off. >> and then you're road kill at the bottom. >> that's exactly right. most folks are saying since the economy's improving, congress, don't screw it up and you get some folks on the far left and far right, there's no cliff, don't worry about this. we're after the election, this isn't an id lodgical debating society. this is about getting something done. let's work on a short-term deal. >> the deal that's there, we're in this situation because congress came up with what they're calling the fiscal cliff now and they're calling it the fiscal cliff because they don't want to e embrace either the tax increases or spending cuts and i think it's foolish to think this congress can come up with a better deal. >> you know what's interesting, to eric's point, there is a great irony
is quite frankly a joke. >> as the country inches closer to the fiscal cliff, is there a way to avoid falling over it? joining me live from los angeles, democratic congresswoman maxine waters. congresswoman, always a pleasure to see you. >> hello, how are you? >> tim geithner saying today the administration would deal with social security at a later date. are democrats serious about entitlement reform? >> no, democrats are not furious, except we understand and will insist that social security and medicare not be on the table at all. the president has presented a credible proposal on both taxes and spending, and he did offer up $400 billion in discretionary spending cuts. so, in addition to the $1.6 trillion that we're insisting on in eliminating or allowing the tax cuts for the richest people in this country to sunset, we are offering up tax cuts also. >> you just said social security and medicare off the table. >> that's right. >> for democrats. >> that's right. that's what i think. that's what progressives think. >> most folks, not discounting -- not discounting the progressive wing
, rope-a-dope. where does that leave us after months of hearing about the fiscal cliff, no signs of a compromise plan yet. chief white house correspondent jessica yellin here now. jessica, what happened to all this, hey, willing to work together, let's compromise, let's do what the american people want, we got a couple of days here before we go on vacation? what happened? >> reporter: i don't know. maybe it is always darkest before the dawn? that's the most optimistic way to look at it, i guess. look, the white house would look at it this way or democrats at least, they have been frustrated that they argue that republicans have not come to the table with specifics on how they would raise taxes. the president as you know campaigned on this pledge to raise taxes on the upper income, and they want to hear what republicans are willing to do on that. so they said since the republicans weren't given specifics, okay, the white house went up there, and delivered an opening position, was not written down on paper, not sort of a formal offer, here's what we want, it was a starting position
. that will be forthcoming. that is breaking. this is ongoing. there will be a fiscal cliff so don't worry about anything. that is what bill clinton is saying. he told an audience in sacramento that all the warnings of bloom and doom are political theater. quote now, the american people people are going to be sick when they watch it. it's just a kabuki dance, two dogs meating each other over a piece of meat they are sniffing each other out, end quote. always colorful. is that what is going on? >> reporter: there's been a lot of sniffing here in washington. i don't know if they like what they are spelling down here on either side on the deal. yeah, people have been describing it like that, some people said it's like a scorpian dance, you know, they are kind of stalking each other and waiting to get in that room and make the deal. erskine bowles said something similar that, both sides can't really talk about what it's going to be, because they would get pummeled by the base if either side really knew what they are going to in the end agree to. that is the hopeful optimistic side that a deal will be reached
with both parties to find common ground. solving the fiscal cliff in a that addresses the true drivers of our debt and saves american jobs will be a great way for the president to start his second term and for the good of our country and my colleagues, we're ready to work with the president to achieve those goals. >> mr. speaker, a couple of things. first, on the issue of tax rates, are you willing to accept no deal that includes some increase in the top tax rates? and i'm also wondering, what our final deadline is on this. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. we're willing to put revenues on the table but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deduckses and not raising rates we think is better for the economy, pure and simple. secondly, the american people expect us to find common ground, to work together and to resolve this and frankly sooner is better than later. >> you've been doing this for a long time. can you be candi
to the fiscal cliff negotiations. coming up in half an hour we begin to show you the remarks from congressional leaders on where things currently stand. we start with house speaker john boehner. also house minority leader nancy pelosi and senate democratic leader harry reid. that starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern. tomorrow on "washington journal," a congressional historian gives the history of the filibuster rule and the changes senate leader reid is pursuing. then a guest from politico examines tax credits aimed at families and businesses that will be impacted if congress does not act on the so-called fiscal clef. beginning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. today in new york at the united nations, the general assembly voted 138-9 with 41 countries abstaining to recognize the state of palestine. it updates the palestinian status to a non member observer state at the united nations. after the vote, u.s. ambassador to the u.n. susan rice said the vote places further obstacles in the path of peace. here are comments -- are about five minutes. >> thank you, mr. president. for decades, the united states has
as part of a balanced approach to deficit reduction and the fiscal cliff. he will not accept a deal that has specific cuts in spending, in entitlement programs that asks middle class americans, seniors who need loans, disabled children to pay a price on the one hand, and the promise, the vague promise, the unspecified promise of a revenue that appears from wealthier americans in the future. that's not a deal the president will not sign. >> i understand the process and what the white house is looking for from republicans, but i'm asking about the president's position. a yes-or-no question. his position that the tax rate has to go to 39.6% on january 1. >> he will not sign the bush tax cuts for wealthy americans. they have rates for top earners at 35%. if you don't sign it, it's up to 39.6 #, the top rate. that's a fact. secondly, he has not seen a single proposal or acknowledgement that a proposal is necessary or will be forthcoming from republicans that even it would be part of the balanced deal. we are now where we are in december, and we need congress, republican leaders in congre
the fiscal cliff. eye roncally enough, something the house of representatives passed last may. in april set out a tax plan. in may passed a sequestration plan, went to the senate and said we're going to see you in the lame duck time period. we're in the lame duck and this had has to be solved. we have to solve the problem. the first thing is to define what the problem even is. it seems one group is talking about the real problems, the fiscal cliff, and the other group is talking about the real problem, the debt and deficit. what is the real issue? we have $16.3 trillion in debt as a nation. $1 trillion of overspending or each year for the last four years. let me set the example of what this really means. in 2007, our tax revenue, how much we were bringing in the treasury, is almost exactly what it is in 2012. from 2007 to 2012, the revenue is almost identical. the difference is our spending has gone up $1 trillion a year. from 2007 to 2012. so over the course of that time it's slowly built up. but each year we've been over $1 trillion in spending. while our revenue has stayed consistent bas
you. unaccountable. c-span2. >>host: has part of our series looking at the fiscal cliffs we look at different aspects today we turn our attention to the amt and the patch that could work out a deal if they do nothing it will affect 30 million americans. john buckley thank you for being here. what is the alternative minimum tax? >>guest: you pay the greater of the regular income tax or under the minimum tax that has the broader-based to disallow those deductions. >> in some respects it is similar to the itemize deductions rather than directly attack it puts the overall cap there is no new ideas it bears a strong relationship. >>host: here's the form for the 2011 tax preparation the alternative minimum taxes you fall into it? how do you know, ? >> i believe you could only do this with computer programs like tax prepares if fried did not have that i do believe that at&t would have been killed along time ago if people really had to do that to figure out the details there would be a strong revolt against the complexity. it is extremely burdensome if you try to do it without preparatio
-called fiscal cliff is a solvable problem. critical as the holidays approach and businesses make investment and hiring decisions for next year. while polls show many americans are pessimistic, there's optimism in this home. >> i got a sense that he's confident that what's best for the american people will happen. >> yeah. >> reporter: you agree? >> yes. >> i do too. >> reporter: but for now, the gop's resisting any tax increases even on those upper income americans. house republicans of course have made the counteroffer with $800 billion in new revenue and an overhaul of the tax code. wolf, they feel as if they have moved the ball, but they don't believe that the president is interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> these negotiations, dan, they usually go until the bitter, bitter end. a lot of folks are assuming that before that end there will be a deal. give us a flavor of the mood at the white house. >> reporter: well, i think they're preparing for this fiscal cliff scenario to play out, wolf. but as you point out when we look back over the last three years, we've had these kinds of n
of the aisle are standing their ground on the plans to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner says the administration will allow the nation to be slammed by tax hikes and spending cuts in the new year if the republicans do not agree to raise taxes on wealthy americans. the gop slammed geithner's comments as, quote, irresponsible. >>> a new york city homeless man has been charged with second-degree murder in the death of a man pushed in front of a subway train. 30-year-old naeem davis being held without bail. he has several prior arrests and served two years in prison for robbery. on wednesday, the victim's family spoke out. his daughter said she wishes someone would've helped her father off the tracks, but said, quote, what's done is done. >>> a candle light vigil in evansdale, iowa. on wednesday, hunters discovered two bodies that are believed to be missing cousins 11-year-old lyric cook and 9-year-old elizabeth collins. they were last seen in july. they disappeared while riding their bikes. >>> kate, the duchess of cambridge has left the hospital this morning, the p
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